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RE: [Rollei] Re: OT SPAM



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At 03:44 PM 5/27/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>I can't remember if I've posted a reply to this sort
>of question recently; I think it was on the MUG rather
>than here, but if not, apologies.
>I use a Yahoo! mail account for most of my groups, and
>I get just about no SPAM at all (unless you count OT
>posts about pens etc! ;)). I also use a Hotmail
>account for some MSN groups, and that is a constant
>recipient of SPAM, generally of the member-enhancing
>type.
>By not using my main e-mail account for any groups, I
>remain SPAM-free there - well, just about.
>The Yahoo! "this is SPAM" feature seems to work pretty
>well, and I can access it just about anywhere - it
>suits me.
>
>Nick

That's a good idea, that is using hotmail or another web-based email 
system, but it doesn't work for me.

As an experiment I set up a test address on eudoramail.com and created an 
auto respond message that I would be out of town for a couple of years.

When I go there to check that email, about 60% of the messages are a 
"bounced mail" message, which indicates that the sender's address is invalid.

If you want to understand the current state of turmoil in the FTC and 
elsewhere, take a look at this- "FTC, no Silver Bullet" article on the 
MSNBC news site:

http://www.msnbc.com/news/916420.asp

(That's a regular website, trust me)

I could quote some interesting parts of this news but have a look.

Well, one small quote:

"Indeed, SPAM could cost U.S. business over $10 billion in lost 
productivity and technology expenses this year, according to technology 
firm Ferris Research.   Corporations currently report that they are only 
blocking about 40 percent of SPAM using a variety of different tools and 
services."

Also, if you read through it you will get at least a few suggestions about 
what to do and not do, and what not to do.

One thing I found interesting is that the article says that only 18% of the 
SPAM messages are about "Adult-oriented products"  I think that's a very 
low number based on my experience.

My software has filtering provisions in which I can select key words or 
phrases and send SPAM directly to the trash can where it stays until I 
empty it.  The only problem is that once I have created 15 or so such 
filters, some of the messages I want get sent there also, so I have to 
check the trash can every time before I empty it.  In addition, and I 
suppose most of you have began to experience this, the text in the body is 
no longer text in the conventional sense, it's text in graphics form, which 
can't be read by a text filter.


Don Williams
La Jolla, CA


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At 03:44 PM 5/27/2003 -0700, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I can't remember if I've posted a
reply to this sort<br>
of question recently; I think it was on the MUG rather<br>
than here, but if not, apologies.<br>
I use a Yahoo! mail account for most of my groups, and<br>
I get just about no SPAM at all (unless you count OT<br>
posts about pens etc! ;)). I also use a Hotmail<br>
account for some MSN groups, and that is a constant<br>
recipient of SPAM, generally of the member-enhancing<br>
type.<br>
By not using my main e-mail account for any groups, I<br>
remain SPAM-free there - well, just about.<br>
The Yahoo! &quot;this is SPAM&quot; feature seems to work pretty<br>
well, and I can access it just about anywhere - it<br>
suits me.<br><br>
Nick</blockquote><br>
That's a good idea, that is using hotmail or another web-based email
system, but it doesn't work for me.<br><br>
As an experiment I set up a test address on eudoramail.com and created an
auto respond message that I would be out of town for a couple of
years.<br><br>
When I go there to check that email, about 60% of the messages are a
&quot;bounced mail&quot; message, which indicates that the sender's
address is invalid.<br><br>
If you want to understand the current state of turmoil in the FTC and
elsewhere, take a look at this- &quot;FTC, no Silver Bullet&quot; article
on the MSNBC news site:<br><br>
<a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/916420.asp"; eudora="autourl">http://www.msnbc.com/news/916420.asp</a><br><br>
(That's a regular website, trust me)<br><br>
I could quote some interesting parts of this news but have a look.&nbsp;
<br><br>
Well, one small quote:<br><br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times">&quot;<a></a>Indeed, SPAM could cost
U.S. business over $10 billion in lost productivity and technology
expenses this year, according to technology firm Ferris
Research.&nbsp;&nbsp; Corporations currently report that they are only
blocking about 40 percent of SPAM using a variety of different tools and
services.&quot;<br><br>
</font>Also, if you read through it you will get at least a few
suggestions about what to do and not do, and what not to do.&nbsp;
<br><br>
One thing I found interesting is that the article says that only 18% of
the SPAM messages are about &quot;Adult-oriented products&quot;&nbsp; I
think that's a very low number based on my experience.<br>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times"><a></a>&nbsp;<br>
</font>My software has filtering provisions in which I can select key
words or phrases and send SPAM directly to the trash can where it stays
until I empty it.&nbsp; The only problem is that once I have created 15
or so such filters, some of the messages I want get sent there also, so I
have to check the trash can every time before I empty it.&nbsp; In
addition, and I suppose most of you have began to experience this, the
text in the body is no longer text in the conventional sense, it's text
in graphics form, which can't be read by a text filter.<br><br>
<x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep>
Don Williams<br>
La Jolla, CA<br>
&nbsp;<br>
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