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Re: AW: [Rollei] Re: OT 1911



At 08:47 AM 5/25/2003 +0200, keller.schaefer wrote:
>I had 36 mails in my inbox this morning, almost all of them were on fountain
>pens and - I suppose - on guns.

The pen is mightier than the sword ( I mean gun ) !





>Jerry Lehrer wrote:
> > Richard
> >
> > Only some Springfield '03A1 RIFLES were issued with a 2 groove
> > barrel.  General Motors Guide Lamp Div. made a single shot .45
> > ACP pistol with a NO GROOVE barrel.
> >
> > All this OT gun talk originated from someone discussing a model
> > 1911 FOUNTAIN PEN.
> >
> > Richard Knoppow wrote:
> >
> >
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Gene Johnson" <genej2  >
> >>To: <rollei  
> >>Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:59 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Rollei] Re: OT 1911
> >>
> >>
> >>>In the spirit of expanding the expansion, I still kick
> >>
> >>myself for long ago
> >>
> >>>passing on a Smith and Wesson model 1917 revolver in .45
> >>
> >>ACP.  It used two
> >>
> >>>half moon clips to hold the rimless cartridges for loading
> >>
> >>in the cylinder.
> >>
> >>>It was beautifully made, and was issued, along with the
> >>
> >>Colt New Army I
> >>
> >>>think, possibly due to shortages of the 1911.  Both of
> >>
> >>these were 6 shot
> >>
> >>>pistols.  I've seen several of the New Army model, but
> >>
> >>just the one Smith
> >>
> >>>1917.  The Colt was not bad but lacked the fine finish and
> >>
> >>smooth action of
> >>
> >>>the Smith. As for the 1911, I agree with all that it is a
> >>
> >>fine pistol right
> >>
> >>>out of the box.  Given a few hours in the hands of a
> >>
> >>skilled pistolsmith
> >>
> >>>they can be very nearly perfect.  And this is from me, a
> >>
> >>big revolver guy.
> >>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Marc James Small" <msmall  >
> >>>To: <rollei  
> >>>Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 7:39 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Rollei] Re: OT 1911
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>  The Colt version was fairly common on the surplus market
> >>many years ago. One could also buy boxes of half moon clips
> >>for next to nothing.
> >>  My somewhat vague memory is that some wartime ACPs were
> >>poorly made, and some had two groove barrels. All this could
> >>be fixed by a gunsmith. Many WW-2 vintage ACPs were
> >>"accurized". I am not sure what that included but probably
> >>adjusting things for better fit. Military guns were made to
> >>have absolutely interchangible parts and  not to be fussy as
> >>you point out. It is a remarkable design. For those not
> >>familiar with the workings of the Colt Automatic Pistol it
> >>can be completely disassembled without tools. Even the
> >>screws holding the stocks on can be removed by using one of
> >>the flat springs in the mechanism. It is quite possible to
> >>learn to disassemble and reassemble one with your eyes
> >>closed.
> >>  The main cause of jamming, as I pointed out before, is bad
> >>springs in the magazines. If the magazines are in good
> >>condition the gun will never jam.
> >>  I am not particularly a shooter (although I love to target
> >>shoot) and not a gun nut, but I like well made machinery of
> >>all sorts hense my interest in both Rollei cameras and some
> >>guns.
> >>---
> >>Richard Knoppow
> >>Los Angeles, CA, USA
> >>dickburk  
> >
> >
> >

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