Re: [Rollei] shoot me down

[Nathan Wajsman <wajsman]

Dave,

I have both a Rollei 35 (which I bought in December) and a Ricoh GR1
(which I have had for a couple of years) and the Ricoh is currently for
sale. Why? I prefer the Rollei for several reasons, some of which may
not be wholly rational:

- - I like purely mechanical cameras (my main camera is a Leica M)
- - I find the Rollei's 40mm lens a more useful focal length for general
snapshooting than the Ricoh's 28mm
- - The Rollei gives me full manual operation, the Ricoh at most
aperture-prority (albeit with exposure compensation possible)
- - The Rollei has a much shorter shutter lag, the Ricoh, like all other
autofocus cameras, has a noticeable delay between pressing the button
and taking the picture.

The last two issues are the main reasons why I prefer the Rollei--they
may or may not be important to you.

In all fairness, the Ricoh also has some advantages:
- - much easier film loading
- - it winds all the film out of the casette upon loading, and then winds
it back in frame by frame as you shoot; this means that if you
accidentally open the camera, you will not lose any exposed frames
- - the Ricoh is smaller and lighter than the Rollei

Both cameras have excellent lenses, capable of outstanding images.

If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me off-list.

Nathan

david kelley wrote:

> Hi
>
> thanks and that makes sound sense to me.  sounds like
> you are right, got to read light meter through the
> viewfinder, these are only 35mm compacts, ease of use
> is the whole point of these things.
>
> also, thr Ricoh GR-1 seems to have a huge fan base and
> is almost recognised as the best in this sort of
> class, so i will check that out a little farther.
>
> thanks i will heed your advice re rollei 35's!
>
> dave
>
>  --- Per Einar Forberg <p.e  > wrote: > I
> suppose we're talking about the small
> > all-mechanical Rolleis.
> >
> > Not the SLR's or never (and unknown to me) Rolleis.
> >
> > It's hard to say about those Rollei 35's.
> >
> > I havent got any og the new fancy ones, but many of
> > the older models.
> > Many of these are very alike in usage and apperance.
> >
> > The best version I have is a Rollei 35 S Silver.
> > This one has a 2,8/40mm.
> >
> > I prefer the 2,8 lenses myself, as I use these
> > cameras merely
> > for snapshots.
> >
> > I have a Rollei 35 TE which is the one I find to be
> > the fastest in use.
> > This is due to lightmetering can be read in the
> > finder by LED indicators.
> > The drawback of this camera is a 3,5/40 lens.
> >
> > All the other Rollei 35's I have, has the lightmeter
> > display on top of the
> > camera.
> > I find this both anoying and slow to use, as I
> > haven't found a good rythm in
> > finding the picture, reading the meter and then
> > taking the picture.
> >
> > Whith the LEDs on the 35 TE I can find the picture
> > and adjust speed etc while I
> > still have the picture in the finder.
> >
> > So, for my usage I'd say a Rollei 35 SE (2,8/40mm,
> > Sonnar) is the ideal camera.
> >
> > This is said without considering the new Rollei 35's
> > (like the classic,
> > marine etc.)
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> > The reason for me not considering the new Rollei
> > 35's is that I exclusively buy
> > secondhand cameras from privates, and these are hard
> > to find in the
> > scandinavian market.
> > The older ones appear rather rapidly, and often at
> > great prices.
> >
> > Per Einar
> >
> >
> > At 22:58 24.03.2002 +0000, you wrote:
> > >Hi
> > >
> > >that's just it, there are so many,
> > >
> > >they appear on ebay from time to time, which do you
> > >think is the best?  you have a bunch of them.
> > >
> > >i wish i had a bunch of them!
> > >
> > >but maybe one will do for now.
> > >
> > >dave
> > >
> > >
> > >  --- Per Einar Forberg <p.e  > wrote: >
> > I
> > >might be missing some information, but which
> > > > Rollei 35 are you hunting for? There are so
> > many.
> > > >
> > > > I've got a whole lot of them myself, and I
> > love'em
> > > > all.
> > > > Don't know the GR1 though.
> > > >
> > > > Per Einar Forberg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 22:27 24.03.2002 +0000, you wrote:
> > > > >thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >i don't know which way to go, i love the look
> > of a
> > > > >rollei 35, but i have read so many times the
> > GR1 is
> > > > >the best ever 35mm compact.
> > > > >
> > > > >i think i would probably go for a rollei, just
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > >long standing reputation for excellence rollei
> > has,
> > > > >just to own a cemera made by rollei is a good
> > > > feeling.
> > > > >
> > > > >dave
> > > > >
> > > > >--- Marc James Small <msmall  > wrote: >
> > At
> > > > >09:36 PM 3/24/02 +0000, david kelley wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >however i am very happy indeed with the
> > pics i
> > > > am
> > > > > > >getting, it can't seem to do any wrong.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >anyone want to venture an opinion on this
> > > > prego?
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >reviews i have come across have generally
> > not
> > > > been
> > > > > > >great, though one or two were.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >p.s.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >question:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >rollei 35 or ricoh gr1 ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, on the last, I'd go with the 35, but,
> > > > then,
> > > > > > I've owned and used a
> > > > > > slew of them.  I've never noted a Ricoh GR 1
> > > > nor,
> > > > > > for that matter, ever
> > > > > > seen a Rollie Prego in person.  (I live a
> > bit in
> > > > the
> > > > > > sticks, and, when I
> > > > > > visit Real Towns, my concentration is not on
> > > > > > visiting camera stores ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And welcome aboard!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > msmall    FAX:  +276/343-7315
> > > > > > Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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