Re: [Rollei] Rolleicord III

[Richard Knoppow <dickburk >]

At 06:03 PM 11/21/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>At 12:19 PM 11/21/01 -0800, you wrote:
>>Marc-- I can't recall whether you're interested in sr nrs of JSK lens users,
>>but in case yes, here is the stuff:
>>Body sr nr 1317179
>>Taking lens sr nr 3115833 (JSK xenar)
>>Viewing lens sr nr 244888  (Heidosmat 3.2)
>
>For many years, Joan McKeown was accumulating Schneider numbers but I
>believe this has now been superseded by Prochnow's REPORTS.  I never sent
>her mine, but all of the ones I have listed fall within Prochnow's limits.
>
>Now, ZEISS numbers I want, as Zeiss has been, well, less forthcoming with
>its production records than has JSK.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Marc
>
>msmall    FAX:  +540/343-7315
>Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
>
   Schneider has a complete serial number list on its web site, or at least
the Schneider of America web site at: http://www.schneideroptics.com  No
breaks from the very first lens, its really complete. There is also some
data on discontinued lenses on the same site. 
   The Zeiss serial number list which appears in McKeown's Guide goes back
a little further than Prochnow's list, which dates from the first F&H
cameras. Its helpful but obviously not complete.  It also stops at the
early 1940's (I think without looking). Again obviously, Oberchoken had its
own serial numbering system. I've never seen anything on this, or on the
Jena system after WW-2. Perhaps the Zeiss Historica Society has some data. 
  Its nearly impossible to get serial number information on other makes of
lenses. Kodak lenses can be dated from 1940 because they have a two letter
prefix based on the key word CAMEROSITY for 1,2,3, etc., for the last two
digits of the year of manufacture. I've never seen any data for Kodak
serial numbers before this. There is a partial list of Goerz American
serial numbers. Again, its helpful but very incomplete. I've never seen any
serial number information for other manufacturers. Not long ago several of
us who frequent the large-format news group tried to ferret out enough info
to figure out Bausch & Lomb's system, but to no avail. In any case, B&L
seems to have used at least two systems at various times, one using a two
letter prefix similar to Kodak's system, but no permutations of known
manufacturing dates could come up with a key word. 
  If anyone on this list has any serial number data, or knows of a source,
I would be glad to have it.
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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk  

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